However to their credit, Loakes customer service was excellent. I have had a painted patina on several shoes see Berluti here, Dandy here, Carreducker here and G&G here. Dedicated to informing, teaching, and sharing. Although, suede uppers would take a long time to wear out. As someone with narrow feet, and unable to afford bespoke, this is a major bugbear of mine. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. In the long run you will always regret buying a pair that ticks all the boxes, but doesnt have a good fit. Good point Ben, Im not sure. Everything I have is at the level of Crockett & Jones Handgrade or above, and most are Edward Green. Snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes significant bowing. Noel: That was the point I was trying to make, when I wrote: whats my experience, and I know for many others as well who have good bespoke shoes, is that the experience of wearing them, with the snug comfortable fit, excellent arch support etc, widely triumph wearing RTW/MTO Goodyear welted shoes. *UPDATE: Carmina say they do not use plastic heel stiffeners. Pinky toe pinches a touch, * **Meermin Bob** 8UK a hint loose at the heel, but snug at the forefoot, * **Meermin Elton** 8UK very snug to start, much more comfy now, * **Meermin Olfe** 8.5UK could've probably gone down to 8UK but is still pretty comfortable, surprisingly not too slippy. First thing I noticed is that they write the shoe runs large and one should buy half a size smaller than usual. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. AE has excellent customer service to this day. Meermin shoes are highly trendy and fashionable shoes. I dont think theyre very different, but no I cant compare directly, as I dont own GC RTW. I normally wear medium weight socks from Darn Tough and Wigwam unless otherwise specified. Roomy toe box, heel is snug and hugs my foot all around. Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. And sorry for the long post, whenever I come across such I wonder whether the guy is a bit insane, but then, passion, what? As Im a women who is looking for well made leather shoes, I have even smaller heels than the male feet in comparison to feet length. Its a comfortable, yet roomy fit. Maybe even a philosophical one. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? If you also have small heels and struggle to find well fitting good year welt leather shoes, I wholeheartedly recommend Japanese brands who have leather shoes that are specifically designed for the Japanese feet. The equivalent shoes are both online currently for 400 each. They are both leather lined with a full leather insole and both have a Goodyear welted single leather sole. Its probably confirmation bias but I do think they are good value especially with their very regular sales. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. Non-sense. High volume last with somewhat narrow toe box. Heel to ball fits much like Barrie 9.5D, with a tiny bit more volume, but toe box tapers more sharply from both sides. Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. I have not personally verified it since, but I believe that I am at the mid-to-upper end of 10.5 based on other fits. Bought before I understood my size. AE is placed well below C&J and Carmina, lacklusterly portrayed together with cheaper brands, and tied with Loake. Brands like Cheaney, Churchs, Trickers and Grenson dont feature here? And that at the end of the day, I would be better off saving on a getting an additional major item a year of fine quality rather than getting a 30th shirt that I dont really need. The former you appreciate in the shoes over time. Wolverine 1000 mile 9D: Gusseted tongue made the break in a little hard at first, overall a bit narrow and snug in the waist, but a very comfortable fit when broken in. I just don't love Rancourt's boot patterns and overall build. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. Last shape feels similar to Parkhurst 10 and Viberg 9.5, except toe is slightly longer and more tapered, heel is snugger, and it's much roomier throughout the instep. TLB (above) is a good example of how much more dynamic the Spanish shoe market is than the English. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. Please use the following format to facilitate readability and searchability: This is an example of what a good comment looks like. About 4 or 5 years ago, I naively bought a pair of Loake Shoemakers and the quality was very poor. The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. Great stitch density and overall construction for a GYW loafer that normally runs 160 euros. So my true size is an 11.5, in most American boots I'm an 11, and all my boots with European sizing (like Tricker's) are a 10.5. I dont cover the other brands on this list normally either. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. Indeed the leather is really stiff. He knows the market back to front and is a lovely gent. The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. Still being worn with same sock thickness as the other Parkhurst last. Thanks for your efforts! These shoes are well-appraised by people worldwide for their comfort, style, and proper appearance. Its a comparable quality level, at a slightly lower price, and uses leather-board heel stiffeners. Update: had to take the leather insert out, just couldn't deal with how shallow the toe box is. Perhaps other readers can. This means that in our Goodyear welted shoes you are likely to go down 0,5 size compared to what you wear in Meermin Hiro. Heel is kind of big for an oxford shoe it turns out, stick to a boot for this last. It may not display this or other websites correctly. REGULATION AND US. Reply below with your sizing in any lasts you own/have experience with. Your mentioning Jesper`s financial interests is interesting would more call this commercial however. Nice article , but why the article call these cheap shoes? Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. Can I Put Birkenstocks in the Washing Machine? They both have a very knowledgeable blog dedicated to shoes. Im happy I earn enough now to not care about this market segment any longer. Truman P-79 9D: Good fit, was snug the first day with boot socks and now comfortable with boot socks. I have owned shoes from most of the English brands, and 5-10 Spanish brands and 5-10 Italian brands, and its a quite clear difference (but again, there are exceptions in both directions. Why spend 400 retail when you can get a great pair of shoes for half that? The quality of the leather on my particular pair isnt as good as the Loake 1880 (or any of the other brands) but overall these are a well constructed pair of shoes. Gaziano & Girling MH71: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling GG06: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling KN14: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano & Girling DG70: UK 11.5 F. Gaziano . 1 down the toe could be getting very short. Not having a physical shop makes a small difference, as does not selling wholesale or using an agent, but that doesnt translate to a shoe thats twice the quality. Lovely article! Crocketts uses good quality raw materials, particularly the upper, but the make is a bit simpler. The main difference is that cheaper brands use split suede, where the hides have been split into two layers (sometimes even three, but thats mainly used for even cheaper shoes), while more expensive brands use reverse calf suede (where you have the full hide, and the flesh side is sanded). Their prices and quality is a good balance. It's a reasonably generous last. Ive decided to get a pair of loafers, which Id wear with flannels, chinos, dark denim and (occasionally) shorts. The problem with the Japanese brands is theyre rarely available outside the country. Free shipping for many products! Hoping to get myself a pair soon. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. Ive around 20 pairs of Carmina, 2 of C&J mainline and a dozen of C&J hangrade. Its a bit funny though that you state I do arbitrary claims, when you yourself lift the examples you do, without backing it up with anything. Thanks Robin. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. men's size 6D with my thickest socks; my dream would be a size 5.5 in this last: 6D Meermin Hiro Derby: 4.5: UK: . Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. Im looking forward to stopping by! Alden Trublanace 9D: Far more volume than I need and a lot of play side to side in the ankle area but certainly comfortable. Please check Rafal's thread and patronize a true custom maker. and the results for the money where quite good.at a distance, you could mistake them for Berluti, at 1/4 the price. Loake make some shoes in India, 1880 range is made in UK. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. The soft cushioning of the insoles in Carmina shoes are some of the best in the industry today. Second is a Loake 1880 snuff suede apron derby boot. Will it be in Spain 1 or Spain 2 in your list? are priced above the equivalent Allen Edmonds, usually at an Alden equivalent price. Nobody wants a bad fitting pair of strides but at least they wont cause you physical pain. Should fit most people TTS. Guess it goes to show how individual it all is. And they are a Canadian brand not American. Not sure why this is the case. I appreciate that it takes time and skill and thus affects cost, it just doesnt matter a ton to me as it doesnt have a meaningful effect on how the shirt wears or looks. One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. Morjas is similar in having a cleaner make, and is a touch more expensive than the other two. Good point about Allen Edmonds. Heel is a bit wider than I'd like when new but does break in. And nice finishing and detailing as you mentioned. The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. Unless there is also a considerable increase in quality, Id say this reposition leaves Church as even less of a value for money option. I have some upcoming which Ill be updating once arrived. Did you ever talk to them about what is the rationale behind this strategy? Not sure I'd feel the same today. I have had great buys from Tricker none were country shoes, but one pair had channeled soles, which even at full price would have been a bargain. Here the belittling is by Jesper, but somehow feels like follow-through of the same swing. Im a scrooge but think this is crucial to include in your mental budget. Nice to hear your journey Joshua. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. But in the same moment, I realised this was unfair. Exactly!! Lofgren 110: Im aware that its not polite anymore to cherish them, but the Steadfast Chukka in 9.5 is my best fitting shoe ever. (Portuguese shoemaker) More disclosure is called for before putting a disclaimer on others situation. 8.5D may have worked with thinner socks. They use plastic heel stiffeners, and the make is solid and English - not that refined. I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! I just had the opportunity to try on some Carminas in store. Even with a tongue pad, facings fully come together throughout the instep. No worries at all, its much appreciated. 4 3 3 comments Best Add a Comment hjordan28141 2 yr. ago For someone who was a first time buyer of Northampton shoes, that process was indispensable. There are some good value pick ups in this range, especially when youre figuring out what you like and dont like and building up your wardrobe slowly over time.. Nice, good to hear your experience Taylor, thanks. I recently started to be more careful about how I track my wardrobe spending. Im happy to pay a bit more for that consistency and service. I can fully close the lacing most of the way up for an ideal look. Thanks for the response. I am a little biased here because I have had these for longer than any other pair on this list, so they are more broken in, and the last happens to fit my foot better than any but the C&J 348 too. Simon: I understand that there are certain differences between more expensive shoes and less expensive shoes. It hails from Meermin's Classic Collection, which is the less expensive of the two lines, at 160euro/pair (or roughly $205). I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. Low arches but not flat. Allen Edmonds still made really good shoes twenty years ago, but their attempt at becoming an all around clothing brand with its own shops really harmed the quality of the shoes. Either as a good value buy for one who is unwilling or unable spend more, or, as a gateway purchase into the world of fine mens shoes. These classy are built for the ultimate style, comfort, functionality, and elegance of the elite. He replied straight-faced: No, we only use the best full-grain calf for our shoes. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. At Styleforum, youll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis. A very useful piece for me as Im slowly getting into the joys of proper shoes. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? It takes days to sift through the carmina thread to even know relatively what size to buy. Also, as this pair is the kind of a pair of is, this hasn't been in the easiest environments. Job done. Alden Aberdeen: 9.5E fits me really well with medium socks. My favourite pair of C&J have been back to the factory four times for refurbishment. This I find quite interesting, since you certainly arent the only one. Hmm, thanks for highlighting that Francois. Joseph Cheaney are undoubtedly the thinking flaneurs cordonnier. Carminas are better than Meermin shoes today because of one major thing: Better Material Quality. Meermins have also been fine, especially for suede loafers. My right foot always had some heel slip even with the laces pulled very tight and a tongue pad. Parkhurst 9D: Great fit. Notes about feet: Low instep, low arch, wide-ish with somewhat splayed toes. Slightly low arches. Not a big difference though. I converted my US size to UK and got that one, should have done 1/2 down from UK. Very nice article. In India there is Bridlen (below), which makes a very solid, classic-looking shoe. I run in minimal shoes, lift in minimal shoes or barefoot, and hike a lot in zero-drop trail runners. Loake1880 is good starting point and it used to be a very good value. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. I dont think either has changed in their quality, no. **The older 2040s are tighter, because of the older style of heel pad, if you find it too tight I recommend considering swapping out the heel pads. Ive only been reading PS for a few months, and I immediately got hooked to the point that I spend my free time reading past articles in order to catch up. CNES has a larger range of casual shoe styles off the rack but Fugashin is more refined with better hand details and more elegant last shapes. Viberg 110: Last is shorter than other service boot lasts. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. You are using an out of date browser. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. Unfortunately almost all clothing has diminishing returns as you pay more, and thats certainly the case with shoes. The vamp was tight but not painful, toes were fine. Own a pair of derby shoes in the last now. I have also tried on shoes from Yanko and Septieme Largeur. The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. JavaScript is disabled. Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. Particularly annoying is when they talk about cutting out a middle man, and going straight to consumer. However, when I visited meermin pop up in London, I dont think I would ever get a black box calf from them! So in order to create a frame of reference, I phoned Jesper Ingevaldsson, who writes the website Shoegazing.com and now works in the industry, for Swedish shop/brand Skolyx. I have 3 pairs of meermin and they are not hard to break in (aside from heel). I have a pair of Chelsea boots by Sanders, bought at John Rushtons. Unlined Carmina loafers. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes, but they are also more valuable. Youre better off looking at the tannery the leather came from and if it had a recognizable leather name (cxl for example) but even within that there are gradations on the product from the same tannery. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. The question there is how long such value lasts, when the company grows or takes on new costs. Because the level is higher, and also because I wasnt that impressed with Myrqvist either, personally. I've been told that the forest last is the only one available in a wide, but only in mto. I have been wearing several pairs for ~18 years without an issue besides replacement of a couple of degraded rubber heel soles. Everyone in London should visit John and ask for his advice on shoes. Benzein Parang 42: Its a bit short, but wearable. France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. Its actually something well touch on in our upcoming piece looking at budgets and capsule wardrobes. Regarding AE, theres certainly been a change since their most recent acquisition in 2017. * **Vass P2** EU41.5 comfortable fit but too much toe volume and instep. Personally, I like their lasts quite a bit. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. PS Presents 23: Arterton, LEJ, Marrkt, Fox and Rubato, Click on an image to enlarge. Will they last much longer? The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. The quality of the leather isnt as good as Crockett and Jones, but is far superior to my Barker and Loake shoes. I think calling things cost-effective when you just mean cheaper would be a needless euphemism. Ive since moved on to other brands because I wanted higher quality. It is relatively easy to find them discounted, Apologies if this question is in the wrong place. Eastman MiM Camp moc in CXL: 10.5D, took months to stretch but fit amazingly barefoot or with thin to medium thick socks now. Leo 9.5E: Excellent fit with thin socks. Meermin US UK Narrow. Way too narrow and painful all around, last too tapered for my taste. Simon, I was wondering what are your thoughts on Sanders. With TLB, you could choose a more versatile dark-brown calf, or perhaps brown suede but with leather soles. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. F. E. F. Extra-wide. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. Some of the best dress shoes that you can get with your money today are the Carminas and the Meermins. ??? 11D would've been better out of the box but CXL is very forgiving. Thanks a lot Simon. You may learn more here. Other than more subjective things like style, it's fair to say this is the most consistent difference between English and Spanish shoes. Measured as 9.5 D. Will get more detailed measurements after the pandemic, along with a military last fitting. Theres a lot of marketing in this entry-level market: everyone says their shoes are handcrafted, using the best materials.. I purchased a pair of chocolate brown suede chukkas from AFPOS a number of years ago, and the suede is a beautiful colour and has maintained its nap really well. The soles on the Trickers town shoes wear down quickly. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. Carminas are more expensive than Meermin shoes. But you might want to chat with Carmina first to double-check. Press J to jump to the feed. I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam so I know these companies. Overall, Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. Thursday Vanguard 9.5D: Toe box is a bit tapered for my liking, but overall fit is so-so. However, it shows. Here there the number of brands increases, particularly with start-ups. * **Alden Aberdeen** 9D loosened up a bit with wear, * **Alden Van** 8.5D comfortable in shell, * **Antonio Meccariello Aeris Soft Square** 8.5UK excellent fit, * **Antonio Meccariello Chisel II** 8.5UK bit loose all round, I suspect half a size down would have fit better but a become a bit tight at the pinky toe, * **Berwick1707 240** 42EU quite snug all round, perfect for a summer loafer, * **Carlos Santos 1944/r1s** 8UK fantastic loafer fit, * **Carlos Santos 401/s** 8UK forefoot a bit roomy, * **Carmina Pina** 8UK too much heel slip for a loafer, * **Carmina Simpson** 8.5UK instep too low, * **Clematis Ginza unknown oxford last** 8UK (made by Joe Works, also too low an instep), * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 41EU Fits but toe box feels too low, * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 42EU Great fit, * **Crockett & Jones 314** 8EUK snug all round, not much toe room, * **Edward Green 184** 8.5UK fantastic loafer fit. The subreddit about quality footwear. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. While a bespoke suit might of course feel a bit better in how it fits and how you can move, it isnt really more comfortable and better for the health of your body compared to a midrange full canvas suit, in the same way as bespoke shoes. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. The only major disadvantage compared to Goodyear is that the stitches come through on the inside of the shoe. The quotes throughout are his. Any other top level comments will be deleted. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. Carmina Simpson Chelsea boot - 9.5 UK. For Its a narrow last with a very high instep. I havent covered Allen Edmonds in the past both because I havent had much experience of them, and because they were below the quality level we normally cover on PS hence their inclusion in this article, which was intended to round-up lots of cheaper makers. Theyre a good place to start: a baseline of quality. For example, I dont really care about super fine handwork on a shirt. I guess the issue is that I've not worn an English shoe before. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. I have had to send back two pairs on separate occasions that both had massive construction errors. Meermin HOK 8.5E UK: Pretty decent fit with boot socks. It is tough to find quality hand-welted shoes for the price that Meermin shoes are being sold for. This is more important for those that dont find heels fit them well, generally. Down by half. Carminas are more expensive than Meermins. The shoes might look good on the feet, but if you pick them up and look closer, youll notice little errors. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. You know what youre getting. Suede from CF Stead and rubber Victory soles. Buy Meermin shoes today because of how affordable they are. Meermin: I own a pair of unlined Chelsea boots in the softcalf leather and I have handled and tried on a paid of loafers in the same leather. very lucky to have bought 8 pairs of EG at a big discount so my shoe cupboard is overflowing and needs to be trimmed now Im starting to wonder if the differential is worth it. Im keeping an eye open for Skomaker Dagestad Yamagata make-ups in the future. Stretched to become a bit too loose with heel slip note these are unlined, * **Yanko 915** 8UK, a bit loose at the heel, * **Zonkey Boot Classic** 8UK great fit but stiffeners are stiff, Brannock: 9D/E (on a printed paper brannock). And all the time there are new makers trying to offer quality for a little less, for a saving of 50 perhaps - or trying to up their quality at the same price. While, as you mention, most people dont see the difference between a 400 Goodyear welted shoe and a 4,000 bespoke shoe. Any feedback from you on this brand. Viberg 2020 8.5 GYW: Kinda snug, had to stretch out the instep, slightly smaller than the stitchdown version. So I have never needed to seek an alternative, and have been fortunate never to need to spend more than 500 on a pair of shoes. Carmina shoes are really great shoes that help you to take your style to a whole new level. Rancourt 800 9D: Great fit. Of course a 200 shoe is going to look and feel cheap. Its Spier and Mackay not Spier McKay. Many thanks in advance, If you want something that very versatile, I wouldnt go with burgundy. You must log in or register to reply here. Do you like the mor traditional English or contemporary French style more? After trying on shoes in Trading Post, the fit is so much better than any western brands Ive ever tried. Good arch support that's sculpted to he foot instead of the PNW Ladder rung shape. Honest , relevant and informative. From time to time you find great deals for +/- USD 600. So yes, you get more durable suede shoes higher up in the price ranges. I'm not sure if this last has a particular name. The fact is that Cheaney have one flagship store and the vast bulk of their business is on line whilst JL are paying for expensive locations and staff explains all at the end of the day its not so complicated. Bought before I understood my size. I had the hope it would get softer and stretch a bit. Own 2 pairs and ordering a 3rd in this last. Compared to the HOK 9 and 2030 9.5 this started with the loosest heel, which lead to a bit of slop, but broke in with some wear. I appreciate that there are differences, I just care more about some differences than others. Still would have preferred 9.5E if it were offered. But they belong in a different category, a quality level down., France, Germany, Italy: Loding, Orbans, Velasca, Shoepassion. Viberg 310E 8.5: Roomy in all directions but toe ball lines up with lowest part of the sprung toe forefoot and widest part of foot lines up with widest part of boot. I can only speak for Cheaney, but the staff were very helpful and there was a good range when I visited around 7 months ago. As someone who generally purchases shoes in this price point and has experiences with Carmina, Loake, Allen Edmonds, Berwick and Meermin.. I would also recommend Thomas George Collection (based in Melbourne) and Crownhill Shoes (Spain), two quality brands who sit at the same price range of Morjas/Velasca and they do great bang for the bucket GW Shoes. Carmina Forest Oxford and Blucher - 9.5 UK. 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