And later on, seeing him on TV a few days later in the front row at Loris hearing, waiting to see if they can keep her in jail longer and not reduce her bail, thats upsetting. They had knocked down my door and taken a lot of my things. Melanie married Ian Pawlowski thereafter, according to the Idaho Statesman. Whats the next thing? Tylee was missing and likely dead by that time, but Gibb told East Idaho News in an interview that Vallow had told her the 16-year-old . We had them almost entirely through the month of January didnt have any problems with Melani or me being around the kids at that point, but now thats a problem. Melani Pawlowski is Daybell's niece. One of them knows exactly where the children are or what happened to them. They love being with me. I think the reason for the 7/22/20 "deadline" was to hasten the removal of Tammy and Charles. MESA, Ariz. - Melani Pawlowski - the niece of Lori Vallow, the so-called "Doomsday Mom" accused of killing her two children - was dismissed from her own criminal charge in Mesa Municipal Court.. In this Feb. 27, 2020 photo Melani Pawlowski is shown outside a courthouse in Mesa, Ariz. And this is a whole deflection on the truth. Her ex-husband has alleged Pawlowski knows the whereabouts of two of her aunt Lori Vallow's two children . Youre crazy. You mentioned in there that your whole intent was not to smear anybody. Its just how we handle being in shock, and every person handles being in shock differently. I desperately just want to call each one and say, Hey, you got this wrong. Eaton: So you guys have talked with the police in Rexburg and the FBI, and any time they want to talk to you, youre open to talking with them and answering questions. Ive done everything for them, and my whole life put everything, every ounce into them, and Im so grateful Ive done that because every day without them is unbearable. So real quick we get married, thrown into this boiler pot, and were doing the best we can, and Ian acted on fears and doubt, rather than the things that he didnt know, but I dont hold any blame toward him. I believe, when all the speculation and rumor is over, and were looking at the real facts here, I believe she has a story to tell. We know were going to be with them soon. I feel like thats a huge concern. When Boudreaux drove away, the Jeep followed him briefly before turning out of the neighborhood. Melani: Im not in any cult, and I dont believe anything that is against The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Garrett Smith, attorney: Hang on a second. Eaton: There are going to be people that say when they get together with relatives, the talk instantly turns to our kids soccer games, piano recitals, whatever. Investigators also say Chad Daybell's first wife, Tammy Daybell, was killed in October 2019. We believe the age of 8 is the age of accountability when youre baptized. She thinks Im Ned or something. What do you take from all that? These are the fears I shared with them that Melani shared with me. Were Lori and Chad in a group that wasnt mainstream? Tomorrow is Mothers Day, and I have every plea in my heart that Brandon will have any kindness in his heart to reunite me with with my children and let them talk to their mother. I dont know if what we shared acted as a catalyst for that. However, his cause of death is not yet known and an autopsyis pending, according to police. "Father asserts that Mother had a Million Dollars of reasons to have Father killed," the documents stated. We want everything to be heard, and I think everything will eventually unravel as we see it continuing to move forward. Theres nothing proving that Tylee and JJ have come to any harm. The bullet hit the front driver's side door frame of Boudreaux's Tesla. She had her first child, Colby, in 1996. She loves her children and respects life.. That's still being uncovered. Rexburg police did not immediately respond to The Republic's inquiry about the matter. The couple marriedmore than two weeks after his wife, Tammy Daybell, died inFremont County. Her lawyers needed to know exactly what I said, how I said it and thats how I wanted to present it to them. Michael: Why didn't you just put me in charge? Im hearing this and Im going, Holy crap! This archived news story is available They claimed Brandon wasacting in retaliation and "carried through with his threats by lying in his court documents" as an effort to get full custody of their children. Can you guys address the public as to what you all are doing to help in the case? Previously cities included Pasadena CA and Whittier CA. I have been asked what spiritual experiences has Lori had. I know they dont have anything to do with it. Hours after Cox returned, he and Lori were seen on surveillance cameras removing the single wheel with a tire and a back seat to a Jeep from the storage unit. Ian is. While I would absolutely love to know where they are and just get this over with and move on with my life, I have to try to have faith and believe that theres going to be a happy ending to this. Here is the Proof. Yes so many things look suspicious. Try out somewhere new and come see if you like it up here. We toured BYU-Idaho, and she said Tylee was with friends. I was an open book and said, Heres what I know. Their bodies were found in June 2020 buried in Chad Daybell's backyard. Does anyone out there know much about these two? "Mother is involved in a cult where numerous members, adults and children alike have been being killed off like flies," the documents state. Where it comes down to Tylee and JJ and this zombie idea it came from a disturbing phone call I got from one of Loris old friends right after they took off to Hawaii. What are Ian & Zulemas role in this mess? Ian: Anybody who doesnt know whats going on, theyre going to look at this and go, Yeah, this is insane.. More than 10 years before his death, Ryanwas attacked by Cox in Austin, Texas, after a supervised visit with Tylee. Brandon Boudreaux is seeking damages from Robert P Jarvis after the salacious claims were made in a press release sent to members of the media. They packed up and left, and I think it was a planned move. Anytime theyve had questions, weve answered. Estimated read time: 5-6 But really, I just want to see JJ. You cant have it both ways. Lori Vallow'schildren,Joshua "JJ" Vallow, 7, and Tylee Ryan, 17, havebeen missing from Rexburg, Idaho, since September,sparking anationwide manhunt and international interest including in Arizona, where they previously lived for years. When it comes down to it, every fear, every worry, every doubt that I have it doesnt stick to the knowledge I do know of who Lori is and everything shes done to protect those kids. Or maybe Im just full of myself. It was very alarming to see all these things. She told me, Lori and Alex did something to Tylee and JJ, and we dont know where theyre at, and Lori has lied to you, and all these things that didnt feel right. He came over to our house and said, Lori is crazy. He showed us this document, and thats the first time I saw this. Before the attempted shooting of Boudreaux, police learned Lori Daybell's two children, 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 16-year-old Tylee Ryan, had vanished. Twice that morning, Cox and Chad Daybell made calls between their burner phones, according to police reports. You didnt see the kids at all. I had a lease on mine and he did also. "She acted like, 'I don't know of any problems whatsoever. 6 records for Melanie Pawlowski. I could understand not seeing them one or two days, but after days and days go by and Tylees Jeep isnt there did you ever ask Lori, Hey, where are Tylee and JJ?. Be Safe, Be Well! CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE COVERAGE AND THE LATEST STORIES ON THE CASE. Melani: I dont know, and Ive been asked that so many times. To be honest, Im in my own head and dont know where my own kids are at that point. He pulled me into the garage, and he and my uncle Adam said, Charles has been murdered by Alex. Im like, It doesnt feel right, and theres got to be something more to this.. It sounds like her conversations even with her own lawyer have been recorded and then given to Detective Ball and the prosecutor. Two years later, Joshua was adopted by Lori Vallow and her former husband, Charles Vallow. The date for the Daybell's trial is not yet scheduled. I get a knock at the door, and I open it and see police, and Im jumpy because what is my ex up to? [conspiratorial whisper] They cannot arrest a husband and wife for the same crime! They are in connection to JJ, Tylee, Tammy Daybell and Charles Vallow's deaths. Court documents filed by Brandon Boudreaux also claimed Melani told her new husband, Ian Pawlowski, whom she married in Las Vegas in November before relocating to Rexburg, that she believed. Cox used a stun gun onJoseph and then threatened to kill him, according to court records. I want to thank you for being open-minded, for wanting to share both sides and not being afraid to share truth. I knew what was going on, and in my own head, Im trying to find out where my own kids are. Why suddenly marry Melani? But as Ive gotten to know Summer and Janis and heard more about Loris life and the experiences shes gone through, Im starting to see maybe there is some reasoning behind whats going on. Im going to record your conversations, try to get from point A to point B, get this thing wrapped up and over with so I can move on with my life and my new wife.. Ian is now married. Eaton: For the casual reader seeing this, there is some shocking stuff in there. Im having to spend all this time telling the truth because everythings been manipulated into lies in the media. Here is the Proof. Lori Vallow was arrestedFeb. 20 by the Kaua'i Police Department in Hawaii andappeared in a Hawaii court the following day where her bail was set at $5 million. Its not about things. The proof comes from Ian's ex-wife Natalie in an email from Dec-2019 that she sent to Brandon asking for help. Last December, Brandon told The Arizona Republic that Lori Vallow joined a radical religious group in 2018. In an upcoming interview on Dateline, Gibb will again discuss Lori and Chads relationship. It appears that Vallow may have been in Hawaii without Daybell at that time. There was no mention of Tylee in that portion of the interview. Alex would come over and hang out with me. We kind of would sleep at my apartment and set up stuff for Max and Lily over at mine. Brandon was so sure, but his story kept changing. I tried to go hike in Arizona or go on a trip, and I did go visit Lori for a weekend up there (in Rexburg). We talk about in our religion the gift of spiritual discernment, and I think you look at the fruits of people to know for yourself, Is this a good person I want to have in life? There was so much going on in our in my own custody case with my children, and we hadnt got to that. Melani has never been associated with a cult,Jarvis said. Gilbert Police Department spokesperson Brenda Carrasco said Thursday that the investigation into the Oct. 2 shooting was ongoing. "Father asserts that Mother isheavily involved with a doomsday cult located primarily out of the town in which Mother currently resides. Either you sent mean and nasty communications that caused Lori to be threatened, or you didnt, and it sounds like she did, and Lori says she did. Or were you telling Ian just to get it off your chest with the assumption you didnt know what to think? In November, he got married in Las Vegas and, the next day, witnessed the marriage of Melani andPawlowski, according to online court records. Possibly. I was getting my home ready and was going to figure out whats going on with my kids and get them back here. And she found this and confronted him with it. 2 weeks after her arrest in Utah, 3 days after Rexburg PD searched her apt. My ex, Brandon Boudreaux, and I have 50/50 custody, and so anytime it wasnt my time with my kids, I was a wreck and just missed my kids. Find Melanie Pawlowski's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading online directory for contact information. He just thought the world of her and worshipped her. Correction: An earlier version of this story reported, based on the court documents, that Melanie Pawlowski visited both Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow in Hawaii in October. Melani: I did I think on a weekend. I dont know what theyve been told, but I know they know in their hearts who I am. Ian had been divorced in July of 2019. Investigators released details of the investigation Wednesday in a 304-page police report and a handful of body-worn camera videos. And JJ is either doing some type of therapy or with a nanny or in a school that will help him. Maybe theyll see us on TV, maybe not, but we know that they know who we are. JJ was very high energy, and sometimes hed be in other peoples space, and I think sometimes that bothered some other people, so she would say, These are the friends that are not judgmental, and theyll just let JJ come in. She said that he loved his school there. You see a shadow of a claw on the wall, and then the light comes, and its just a branch scratching on the window. "Mother'sknowledge of the whereaboutsof her aunt's two missing children and her unwillingness to cooperate with law enforcement in finding those children is daunting to Father.". We pity losers. A former friend of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell will reportedly testify that Vallows niece Melani Pawlowski visited the newlywed couple in Hawaii after Vallows two children disappeared. A group thats not mainstream? I did see some of their things, and she had a room set up perfectly for Tylee and JJ, and it didnt seem strange to me. Lori Vallow moved with the two children to Rexburg around the first week of September last year, according to court records. Reach the reporter at chelsea.curtis@arizonarepublic.comor follow her on Twitter@curtis_chels. Thats our biggest focus. It sounds like she was very money driven, just like the rest of the cult. Ian Pawlowski: The whole purpose of the document was to send to Melanis lawyers so they knew what I had gone in and told the FBI. The next level is that they know that Lori had a basis and a belief that she needed to take steps to protect her kids. Melani: Absolutely. In the 48 hours leading up to the shooting, on Sept. 20, 2019, Lori Daybell made a search tied to her Gmail account. "Ian told Rexburg PD and the FBI that Melani said she would go to prison or die before. Chad and Lori apparently told you, Melani, that JJ and Tylee had been possessed and become zombies, that Alex may have to take care of the kids, he had great faith and never wavered in his trust of the Lord. Can you understand these writings are alarming, concerning and suspicious on all counts? As you make bad decisions or invite evil things into your life, youre losing that light of Christ. In the middle of evading authorities, getting married doesn't seem like it would be a logical thing on the to do list, but it was. Melani and Ian Pawlowski were married last November after dating for less than two weeks. Chad has said that they are safe. I didnt know where theyre at, I didnt know what was going on and I didnt understand these things. Theyre missing to the rest of us. As the investigation unfolded, police seized the Jeep in Rexburg. Everybody wants that question asked because they just want to see when the kids are, but thats not what Loris goal is here. THE ex-husband of Lori Vallow's niece is suing her family's lawyer claiming the attorney branded him a porn addict who had gay affairs and ties to the mob. She had found a lot of women on his computer, and a lot of purchases and stuff that hed been purchasing through Hollywood Hobbies or something. Morrison said of Pawlowski: "Melanie essentially appeared to want to present that all is fine," Morrison says of the interview. I admire Tylee so much for how brave she was. Less than two weeks later, Cox died on Dec. 12 in Gilbert. She also allegedly asked Melanie Gibb to tell police that 7-year-old JJ Vallow was with her in Arizona, even though he was not. As you go through the document, you kind of see my thought process of this is stuff that Im hearing, and stuff Im worried about. Brandon was shot at in October and believes Alex Cox, his ex-wifes uncle, was the shooter. Melani: Yeah. On that phone call, I felt a lot of fear and doubt, and thats when I kind of went into this worrying phase. RECORDS:Divorce papers show mom of 2 missing kids said she was a god, threatened to kill husband. Smith: I saw the news clip from Kay where she said that shes never threatened Lori. My first meeting with FBI, I shared a lot of these things Im sharing with you, Nate, and they were like, OK, this isnt where we thought this was going at all. We havent heard this other side of why Lori would be doing what shes doing and why she does not feel safe to say where her kids are and why she needs to protect them. Shes smiling on camera, and I know when shes uncomfortable, shell just kind of laugh or smile and try to make light of it. Meteorological winter brought Utah heavy snowfall. They know it was this Jeep registered to Tylee. Ive been trying to put the pieces together of whats going on because I dont have the facts, but the knowledge that I do have it doesnt add up to all the speculation and rumors that are flying around. Things kind of blew up when she and I got married. Ian, along . Lori has always been an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Two siblings from Idaho, who lived in Arizona for years, have been missing for months and their mother, Lori Vallow, has now been arrested in connection with their disappearance. Chandler police interview Alexander Cox after shooting. Investigators spoke to Pawlowski the day after the shooting and she denied knowing anything about it. Who else was at the house when Alex collapsed in the bathroom? The urgency for marriage is bizarre. They say, Whoa, those ideas are on the fringe. I also think Latter-day Saints are very uncomfortable with the word cult. Melani, you said youre not in a cult, but are you in a fringe group? Eaton: And thats when they said the kids are missing? Is this a bad person? Never is there ever any ill intent if somebody is not making good choices in their life to do harm to them. Eaton: Melani, why cant you ask her where the kids are? I did see the same exact pattern happen with my ex-husband. She was a loving mother, and for some reason, all of a sudden, now Brandon is trying to take them away. I know she hasnt come forward and said (where the kids are), and I absolutely would love that. KFC is bringing back a fan favorite after a nearly 10-year hiatus, Layton woman dies in possible drowning in Hawaii, Have You Seen This? Ian marries Lori's niece in Las Vegas within 24 hours of Alex Cox suddenly marring Zulema Pastenes. The documents show that Melanie Gibb will testify that Melani Pawlowski (listed as Melani Boudreaux and "Mother" in the documents) visited her aunt in Hawaii in October. So its hard to go into Lori and say, Just tell us where the kids are when it undermines everything that I just set forth. And so to go in and ask her to tell them where the kids are would undermine her ultimate purpose which is to protect the kids. Why would this lady suddenly marry Alex Cox in Las Vegas around same time as Ian and Lori getting married? You can watch and read the first part of our interview here. George Sr.: You'd be an accomplice! Were trying to set people at ease a little bit. She married Ian Pawlowski last November and lived next door to Daybell in Rexburg during the time her children were missing. Fox 10 Phoenix reporter Justin Lum shared court documents submitted by Melanis ex-husband Brandon Boudreaux listing witnesses and evidence to be presented at a July 1 custody hearing. She said, Just come. Support local journalism. 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Rexburg Police Department Assistant ChiefGary Hagen said he could not comment on its ongoing investigation into the children's disappearance, including the recent court filings. The Pawlowskis now live in Arizona and spoke with EastIdahoNews.com via Zoom on Saturday with their attorneys, Garrett Smith and Robert Jarvis. Melani: Absolutely. In social media posts and media interviews, family and friends of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell have described the couple's religious beliefs as cultlike and troubling, saying they spoke frequently of the end of the world. Melani & Brandon's divorce was finalized in November right after Melani was arrested TWICE for trespassing on Brandon's parents property. . As Cox drove away, he called Chad Daybell twice through the burner phones, police said. Thats just from asking, Whats this video I found? We drove up that first week in November with a moving truck. 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